[ossig] The XP alternative for Vista PCs - Security - News - ZDNet Asia

[Yeak Nai Siew]

This sound good. However few things still happening recently. I got a  
friend told me his Toshiba notebook can only run Vista Business. The  
manufacturer didn't produce driver for XP. So he could not run XP.  
Then another case, Dell M1330 notebook that I helped my cousin to  
order, cannot run XP! It is confirmed that we tried to use other Dell  
XP Pro CD to load, the hard disk controller cannot be detected. It  
seemed that hardware vendor has done something with Microsoft to only  
produce driver for Vista, not XP.

Due to the fact that those notebook can only run Vista, the customer  
HAS to upgrade some software they purchased earlier. Like Acrobat 8  
work with Vista, not 7. If you have earlier license copy, then you  
have to spend more to get the upgrade to 8.

I am told ethereal cannot run on Vista. It is open source software.  
So if you have new notebook and it only run Vista, then you really  
out of luck to use many software that are already work well in XP!

What is the problem of XP that make Microsoft has to move on to  
Vista? I think XP is one of the best software Microsoft had ever  
created, besides the MS Office suite.



On 24 Sep 2007, at 11:42 PM, NP Lee wrote:

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> The XP alternative for Vista PCs
> By Ina Fried, CNET News.com
> Monday, September 24 2007 08:16 AM
>
> While Microsoft is still pushing Vista hard, the company is quietly  
> allowing PC makers to offer a "downgrade" option to buyers that get  
> machines with the new operating system but want to switch to  
> Windows XP.
>
> The program applies only to Windows Vista Business and Ultimate  
> versions, and it is up to PC makers to decide how, if at all, they  
> want to make XP available. Fujitsu has been among the most  
> aggressive, starting last month to include an XP disc in the box  
> with its laptops and tablets.
>
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> "That's going to help out small- and medium-size businesses,"  
> Fujitsu marketing manager Brandon Farris told CNET News.com.
>
> Hewlett-Packard also started a program in August for many of its  
> business models. "For business desktops, workstations and select  
> business notebooks and tablet PCs, customers can configure their  
> systems to include the XP Pro restore disc for little or no  
> charge," HP spokeswoman Tiffany Smith said in an e-mail. She said  
> it was too soon to gauge how high customer interest has been.  
> "Since we've only been offering (it) for about a month, we don't  
> really have anything to share on demand."
>
> A Microsoft representative confirmed there were changes made over  
> the summer to make it easier for customers to downgrade to XP.  
> Under Microsoft's licensing terms for Vista, buyers of Vista  
> Business and Vista Ultimate Edition have always had the right to  
> downgrade to XP, but in practice this could be challenging.
>
> In June, Microsoft changed its practices to allow computer makers  
> that sell pre-activated Vista machines to order Windows XP discs  
> that could be included inside the box with PCs, or shipped to  
> customers without requiring additional activation. Microsoft noted  
> in a statement that neither it nor the PC makers are "obligated to  
> supply earlier versions to end users under the end user licensing  
> terms."
>
> While there is always resistance by some to move to a new operating  
> system, there appears to be particularly strong demand, especially  
> from businesses, to stick with XP.
>
> One of the challenges, for both businesses and consumers are  
> Vista's hefty graphics and memory needs.
>
> Lenovo, for its part, has details for its downgrade program on its  
> IBM ThinkPad Web site.
>
> Dell spokeswoman Anne Camden said Dell has been offering businesses  
> that have a Premier Page set up the option to order systems with  
> XP, Vista or Vista with XP downgrade rights. There is no extra  
> charge for the downgrade rights.
>
> "We've been offering it and we're still offering it," she said.
>
> HP, Gateway and others also still sell machines with XP on them,  
> nearly a year after Microsoft first started offering Vista to  
> businesses. Vista went on sale broadly to consumers in January, at  
> which point XP largely disappeared from retail shelves.
>
> However, demand for XP has remained. In April, Dell brought XP back  
> as an option even on consumer PCs.
>
> There is an issue, though, over how long PC makers can keep selling  
> machines with Windows XP as the preloaded operating system.  
> Microsoft is requiring large PC makers to stop selling XP-based  
> systems as of January 31, though some PC makers would like to sell  
> XP machines for longer.
>
> "We're all lobbying for it," Farris said.
>
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